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Title: The Parka
Post by: babyshambler on March 30, 2013, 01:12:35 PM
Ask any none-mod to think of an item of clothing that defines mods and chances are they'll say the Parka. What they'll not know is that it's a  huge point of contention within the scene. Some of us love 'em, some wouldn't be seen dead in one, but is this simply down to taste or is it something else? We all know they were originally a practical item to protect from grease/dirt but does this alone omit them from the wardrobe? Do you wear one? If not, why not?

Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Neil Lee on March 30, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
Ask any none-mod to think of an item of clothing that defines mods and chances are they'll say the Parka. What they'll not know is that it's a  huge point of contention within the scene. Some of us love 'em, some wouldn't be seen dead in one, but is this simply down to taste or is it something else? We all know they were originally a practical item to protect from grease/dirt but does this alone omit them from the wardrobe? Do you wear one? If not, why not?

Last Friday and Saturday in Leeds it snowed like a scene from 'Empire Strikes Back'.

I wore my Parka to go to the shops. About the only time I do wear it when it snows.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: hipshaker on March 30, 2013, 04:05:23 PM
i had one when in 1979 when i was 14, although i'm pretty sure it was a German army one rather than fishtail as i couldn't find one.

i have got a north face parka for the cold weather now. wouldn't really wear an army surplus fishtail, even on the scooter (got quite a nice tucano urbano jacket for that when needed).

saw a bloke wearing a fishtail the other morning on the ay to work, full length union jack on the back .......... on his pushbike.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: babyshambler on March 30, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
saw a bloke wearing a fishtail the other morning on the ay to work, full length union jack on the back .......... on his pushbike.

 ;D

I have an M65 which I love. With some smart trousers and my desert boots, it's a style-classic. I know it puts some mods off because it's a little 'obvious' or 'clichéd' by to put it simply..I don't care  :P

I like to wear it without the hood attached and other than maybe a tiny button badge on the front, I leave it free from patches/Union Jacks, etc. I know some can't stick Liam, so ignore that it's him, but I just love this look:

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6573/liamparka.jpg)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Modculture on March 30, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Think they work for kids if thats the look you are going for, but anyone over the age of 30, a parka looks a bit silly.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Ade on March 30, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
Think they work for kids if thats the look you are going for, but anyone over the age of 30, a parka looks a bit silly.

Steered clear of parkas since the eighties probably because they're too much a reminder of the earnest but naive sartorial howlers I was making back then (a gruesome pair of red, white and blue bowling shoes spring to mind!). But must admit I recently found myself digging out my M51 when off out in the cold on my scoot. By Christ I'd forgotten how warm it was - partly, I think, because it covers the upper leg. Know what you mean about feeling silly though. Even though its plain and unpatched I won't wear it unless I am in spitting distance of my scooter or carrying a helmet and striding purposefully to or from it!
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: John D on March 30, 2013, 07:58:40 PM
was in Belfast during the week doing a bit of "Shapping" (as they say here)
everybody , mainly girls/women were wearing some form of Parka , most being fishtails..
time to put them to the back of the wardrobe I think ..
at least till they go out of fashion

and even then only while riding a scoot
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: babyshambler on March 30, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
I'm 29 in 2 weeks, so it sounds like my Parka wearing is safe for another 12 months at least..

A serious point though, I look very young (I still get asked for ID on occasion) so hopefully I'll be able to pull off a similar look for a few years yet.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: mr_duderino on March 31, 2013, 12:07:32 AM
i have a black Ice station zebra style down parka, with a fur trimmed hood I bought in canada that is my winter coat.  not dissimular to the north face parkas mentioned previously.  i think its as near as id dare go to a proper one.  mind you i like a bit of surplus.  i have an overhead smock jacket that is basically JTGs scoot jacket in beige (although not from them).  which i like as a summer hint to the parka, but again...id go no closer than that
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Lord Mulberry on March 31, 2013, 02:33:57 PM
Liam Gallagher, an excellent example of why not to wear a parka. Get yourselves a mac guys
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: RBsmallfaces on March 31, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I am definitely a fan of the Parka. Own a M65 myself. However it does get tiresome being repeatedly called LG by un-cultured knob ends who always seem to find it funny. I personally like LG, but that's not why I wear a parka...
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Skaa on March 31, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
They're in fashion (as is the military look in general) so a parka is off limits for me currently. As were desert boots last year, so I'll have to wait a decent amount of time before dusting them off. Such a shame. However, monkey boots haven't found their place on the high street as yet, so I'm alright for the time being.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Little Johnny Smedley on March 31, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
would not wear an army parka anymore, but i also didn't drive a scooter and i'm over 30 already   ;)

But have an navy APC parka for the colder month, which is a version of the classic parka.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/117674.jpg?1364043886)


reading this thread, i remember my childhood in eastern germany, where a bigger subculture called "Blueser" exists. Their "uniform" was an army parka, jeans and suede shoes. It was more a Hippie/Rock kind of thing, nothing to do with mod, lookwise completely different, but interesting to see how similar wardrobe items can create such a different look.

Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: hatters on March 31, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
Think they work for kids if thats the look you are going for, but anyone over the age of 30, a parka looks a bit silly.

Yeah. what he said. Mind you,  I wish I was young enough to still make that look work. Most patches (and all painted logos) look shocking though IMO.

Mike
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: hipshaker on April 01, 2013, 07:03:14 AM
I actually had a Canada Goose one delivered initially (no stckists anywhere near me) but didn't feel it fitted right and got a bit squeamish about the real fur hood bit. In the end I went to the north face shop at Bicester, got it for a reasonable price as I recall .. And was able to try a few on.

i have a black Ice station zebra style down parka, with a fur trimmed hood I bought in canada that is my winter coat.  not dissimular to the north face parkas mentioned previously.  i think its as near as id dare go to a proper one.  mind you i like a bit of surplus.  i have an overhead smock jacket that is basically JTGs scoot jacket in beige (although not from them).  which i like as a summer hint to the parka, but again...id go no closer than that
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Bandito on April 01, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
would not wear an army parka anymore, but i also didn't drive a scooter and i'm over 30 already   ;)

But have an navy APC parka for the colder month, which is a version of the classic parka.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/117674.jpg?1364043886)


reading this thread, i remember my childhood in eastern germany, where a bigger subculture called "Blueser" exists. Their "uniform" was an army parka, jeans and suede shoes. It was more a Hippie/Rock kind of thing, nothing to do with mod, lookwise completely different, but interesting to see how similar wardrobe items can create such a different look.

I do like that, v nice.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Jonny on April 01, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
I had a Fjall Raven Greenland which was fantastic and well priced, however barbed wire unfortunately decided it wasn't a fan and tore a large hole down the side.

(http://www.notadd2.users31.interdns.co.uk/images/fjallraven-greenland-uncle-blue-medium.jpg)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: DJ Penny Lane on April 01, 2013, 05:03:20 PM
I get into this debate with people all the time. Being up here in cold Canada, parkas are a must. When I first got into the mod scene, I had a parka. Not a fishtail, but a heavy, green parka that had a very 'Mod' look to it. I wore that thing to death.

Now, I'm older and I don't feel that the Parka is me anymore. Mod, to me, is about style. I have some lovely pea coats and the like, and I really don't have much of a desire to own a Parka now. BUT I'm also female, and there in lies a huge difference. I suppose this is different for the males. Parkas are for sure a more 'male' article of clothing.

I guess what I get into a debate about is that sometimes Mod looks like a uniform. Yes, there are articles of clothing that always will be associated with Mod (parka, desert boots, Fred Perry's, etc). These are things that those new to the culture see, and attach to and use to show they belong.

Basically, wear something because you WANT to, not because you feel you need to. Wear something because it looks smart and you feel good in it, not to 'belong.' It's a hard line, right? We are categorizing ourselves as 'Mod' and that does include specific ways of looking, I totally get that. I have a hair cut that feel right out of 1964, but I have it because that is a style that looks good on me and I like it. I think I'd have this kind of hair style even if I didn't think of myself as a Mod.

It's a huge can of worms.. :)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Bandito on April 01, 2013, 06:05:03 PM
Thoughtful viewpoint Penny.

I have to say that I quite like the look of a parka on a woman though - not sure why.  Maybe it's because I was a certain age when I first saw Quadrophenia and Leslie Ash.

Having said that, I do think that the right parka, worn in the right way by the right person can look good, male or female (I don't own one personally)

Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Modculture on April 01, 2013, 06:44:44 PM
There area lot of things described as parkas, some of which are pretty damn cool. You could reel off any number of US, Japanese or European labels doing a coat called a parka, all with a heritage from the military, just taken on a bit from the originals.

But the mod military surplus variety is a 'look' and a stereotypical one at that. It's pretty much cartoon mod these days, but if that's what some people want, fair enough.

On blokes 30+, it looks ridiculous for those reasons. You'd have thought being into mod for such a long period of time would have meant an interest in or knowledge of clothing. If you don't have an interest in clothing, mod probably isn't for you.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: DJ Penny Lane on April 01, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
Thoughtful viewpoint Penny.

I have to say that I quite like the look of a parka on a woman though - not sure why.  Maybe it's because I was a certain age when I first saw Quadrophenia and Leslie Ash.

Having said that, I do think that the right parka, worn in the right way by the right person can look good, male or female (I don't own one personally)

Thanks!

And you know what, if I came across a Parka that I liked and looked good, I'd get it. Plain and simple :) Right now, I like my black pea coat.

Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: mr_duderino on April 02, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
I actually had a Canada Goose one delivered initially (no stckists anywhere near me) but didn't feel it fitted right and got a bit squeamish about the real fur hood bit. In the end I went to the north face shop at Bicester, got it for a reasonable price as I recall .. And was able to try a few on.

i have a black Ice station zebra style down parka, with a fur trimmed hood I bought in canada that is my winter coat.  not dissimular to the north face parkas mentioned previously.  i think its as near as id dare go to a proper one.  mind you i like a bit of surplus.  i have an overhead smock jacket that is basically JTGs scoot jacket in beige (although not from them).  which i like as a summer hint to the parka, but again...id go no closer than that

Not sure i even know what brand mine is.  certainly no one that exists in the UK.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Red Steve on April 02, 2013, 12:47:43 PM
Thoughtful viewpoint Penny.

I have to say that I quite like the look of a parka on a woman though - not sure why.  Maybe it's because I was a certain age when I first saw Quadrophenia and Leslie Ash.

Having said that, I do think that the right parka, worn in the right way by the right person can look good, male or female (I don't own one personally)

Thanks!

And you know what, if I came across a Parka that I liked and looked good, I'd get it. Plain and simple :) Right now, I like my black pea coat.

Totally agree with them looking much better on women/girls than on blokes. Bought my wife a genuine M65 for her birthday last December and she loves it, plus looks fantastic in it too. Every time I've tried one on, I've laughed and put it back on the rail. I think as pointed out before, that when you hit a certain age they just don't look right.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: MWC on April 02, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
I have an M51 and M65. Both are absolutely brilliant when out on the scooter. However I tend to steer clear when I'm out and about and go for a mac or a crombie. They can look brilliant or horrendous...
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Red Steve on April 02, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
Liam Gallagher, an excellent example of why not to wear a parka. Get yourselves a mac guys

....exactly.......

(http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/redsteve2008/005_zpse0adc50f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Modracer on April 02, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
Love my Barbour Baltic Parka, not because the link with the fishtail parkas of my youth. Just very warm and snug and has kept me warm during these last few months.

(http://www.barbourcoatshops.com/images/17Mens%20Barbour%20Baltic%20Quilted%20Jacket%20)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: 6236bob on April 02, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
During the Winter Months I decided to buy this Parka...
(http://collegetimes.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/parka-topman-1.jpg)
Kept me warm during the Extra winter months and was ideally priced.
Gotta admit though it is a bit bulky and with English weather changing its mind all the time its like carrying a barrel bag around.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Kassidari on April 02, 2013, 08:09:04 PM

Basically, wear something because you WANT to, not because you feel you need to. Wear something because it looks smart and you feel good in it, not to 'belong.' It's a hard line, right? We are categorizing ourselves as 'Mod' and that does include specific ways of looking, I totally get that. I have a hair cut that feel right out of 1964, but I have it because that is a style that looks good on me and I like it. I think I'd have this kind of hair style even if I didn't think of myself as a Mod.

It's a huge can of worms.. :)

So well said. Can't agree more.I have a Parka because it gets cold and a bit rainy in my hometown, and sometimes I like to wear it to keep warm and dry. I think of it more as a seasonal thing. I have a great, sharper, smarter coat for about every other situation, but I wear my parka because I like the way it looks. Before I was a Mod I dug the way a parka looked as a kid, and I will always have that preference.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: roel on April 02, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
i have a parka. i wear it when its cold outside.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: DJ Penny Lane on April 02, 2013, 10:46:24 PM
Thoughtful viewpoint Penny.

I have to say that I quite like the look of a parka on a woman though - not sure why.  Maybe it's because I was a certain age when I first saw Quadrophenia and Leslie Ash.

Having said that, I do think that the right parka, worn in the right way by the right person can look good, male or female (I don't own one personally)

Thanks!

And you know what, if I came across a Parka that I liked and looked good, I'd get it. Plain and simple :) Right now, I like my black pea coat.

Totally agree with them looking much better on women/girls than on blokes. Bought my wife a genuine M65 for her birthday last December and she loves it, plus looks fantastic in it too. Every time I've tried one on, I've laughed and put it back on the rail. I think as pointed out before, that when you hit a certain age they just don't look right.

You know, I will agree with you there, they do look better on us ladies as we get, ahem, older.

I'm in my early 30s and they look good on me, just haven't found one I adored.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: mdw1981 on April 03, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
I love my Parka, and living in Scotland, it gets an outing quite often. I'm not so keen on the more modern fitted parka style though. One for the kids maybe. Art Gallery Clothing do a cracking M51 style.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Little Johnny Smedley on April 03, 2013, 11:05:20 AM
I had a Fjall Raven Greenland which was fantastic and well priced, however barbed wire unfortunately decided it wasn't a fan and tore a large hole down the side.

(http://www.notadd2.users31.interdns.co.uk/images/fjallraven-greenland-uncle-blue-medium.jpg)

really like the greenland jackets. Have a "summer" version one since a few years for outdoor activities. Resistant, strong material but a classic nice look too.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Soulboy on April 03, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
I've got a Black Waxed Cotton Fred Perry Number for colder days, love it and often tuck in the hood out of sight, really like it, although I always find it funny that I get more 'do you think your a mod' comments from the uninitiated when wearing it, oh how i laugh......
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Saffronjay on April 23, 2013, 08:32:26 PM
I love parkas as they're pretty warm and nice looking as coat go but I'm always getting poles in my back because of the roundel, it was worse when we ha the snow. Does anyone else get this? It's the only reason I sometimes avoid mine.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Bobby Charlton on April 23, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
When I saw this particular photo in the mid 80s:

(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/superv02/Paul_Weller_TSC.jpg)

I immediately plonked my M65 in the back of my wardrobe where it has been kept for nostalgic reasons ever since.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Hoxtonian on April 24, 2013, 08:49:43 AM
I have a modern Carhartt effort to which I added the lining from a US combat jacket for extra warmth. Only wear it in the winter when riding the scoot. Weighs a ton but keeps the cold out. Basically, fulfils its function - protects your clobber from the rain etc.
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: BrianB on April 24, 2013, 01:33:47 PM
I never cared for the M65's as they just never really looked tidy to me, but I love my Alpha Industries slimfit parka. (on the small percentage of the year that it get cold enough to wear it)
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: DrGonzo2411 on April 24, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
I wear a parka, just not one of 'the' parkas (M51, M65). For me, they are a bit too shapeless and, adorned with badges, roundels etc, they smack of 'cartoon' mod. Purely my opinion, of course, one man's meat and all that! The one I have looks more German than US Army, pretty sure I picked it up at an outlet somewhere several years ago. Great for winter/spring scooter riding and generally for fighting the Irish weather!

Oh, and I agree, parkas do look great on the ladies!
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: Bespoke Gent on April 24, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
I have two prakas - both bought on or around 1985 when I was 13 - both stillin my mums 'shed', I have not worn them since about 1994 - but they would still fit as they must be 50"chest.

I would not wear on these days unless I was walking in the snow - but I have a North Face climbing coat for such extreme weather . . . Yet if I were a 13 year old Mod again I woudl have one, as for me a parka is a youngs Mod's right of passage.

M
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: claudio on April 24, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
When I saw this particular photo in the mid 80s:

(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy213/superv02/Paul_Weller_TSC.jpg)

I immediately plonked my M65 in the back of my wardrobe where it has been kept for nostalgic reasons ever since.

EXACTLY - great example to answer this question. Doesn't this picture say it all, especially for the older gents still looking like these teenagers?
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: sean courtney on May 03, 2013, 01:02:52 PM
A right of passage for me from the age of 14-16, I wouldn't touch one now! not any snobbishness but they do nothing for my figure :-).
Prefer a nice Crombie or a 60s pac a mac.



Mind if your over 18 it becomes a Jurassic parker ...
Title: Re: The Parka
Post by: aceuggy on May 15, 2013, 03:04:23 PM
As a kid, I wore my parka all the time. On and off the scooter. I still have that parka hung in the wardrobe and I have just bought another scooter, but at the ripe old age of 61 I'm not sure if I would wear it on the scooter or not. Most of the guys I ride with wear MA-1 jackets now.