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Mod fashion and style / Re: Whats the last item you bought?
« on: Today at 06:54:57 PM »
Quote from: Martin G on Today at 06:03:55 PM
LOVE 'EM!! Look bang on with the Purcells too.


I was sure you'd like them, Martin. Truth is if you don't go the vintage route, it's pretty difficult to find chinos like these that won't cost you an arm and a leg.

Rod, I've got another nice pair of Levi's chinos with button fly, but they're slimmer, so I won't mess with the A&Fs, I like them this way.

(Sorry for the wrinkles in the upper pic, it's taken before a proper ironing)

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Whats the last item you bought?
« on: Today at 05:44:14 PM »
This purchase is likely to appeal just the more Ivy League inclined amongst us, but horses for courses... Wouldn't have pulled the trigger at full price, but Abercrombie & Fitch (yes, them again!) has got all these crazy cumulative discounts and I've ended paying less than half price for the trousers (about 50 € down from 114).



There's an interesting background to these strides, but let the brand tell the story:



What can I add? I'm sure they've messed with the original trousers, they're not a copy, but there are enough nice vintage details here to lend them a patina of autenthicity: the really HEAVY twill, proper high rise, sharp-as-a-knife central crease, button fly (with an ingenious double closure system I'd never seen before, 2 sizes in one!), loose straight leg, waist reinforcement...

Best part of the deal is they're the only pair of trousers in years that I won't need to get shortened, they have the right lenght.

TBH this kind of late 50s khakis suit better a taller & rounder man than me, but in a world increasingly populated with skinny-elastic monstrosities I feel they're a sartorial statement against them, so I'll wear them proudly.  8)


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General music chat / Re: Weller Q&A
« on: Today at 05:21:54 PM »
Quote from: Simon Bond on Today at 04:54:42 PM


However , the last bit of what you said before regarding a love of sixties culture , clothes , tv shows and the whole Jam/Who thing is fundamentally where it is at . There is something about sixties styling that is timeless and many a wee retro shop has hopped on that bandwaggon and of course style simply doesn't go out of fashion .

Yes, that's the key for me, Martin has nailed it. And the Laird, with his references to the nowadays sad state of affairs, musical-wise and sartorial. I'm happy immersed in the past, period. Being it a more cool "place" why should I apologize? And that has never caused me any emotional maladjustment, quite the opposite. I think this is a very ineresting discussion, even essential, as some in the scene seem to feel guilty because mod isn't, as Martin put it, "modern" anymore.   

To go back to Weller, maybe he's not so important to me because I didn't arrive to the 60s/mod scene through him, I began to listen to the Beatles by chance and it was a life-changing experience (oddly, or not, like Weller himself) that led me to research the whole white stuff (Stones, Yardbirds, Kinks, Searchers, Hollies, Zombies, Small Faces, Byrds, in no particular order). Then "Quadrophenia" did its bit. And AFTER all that, thanks to other mod mates (that didn't have a clue about the original sources, btw), I discovered the Jam.
 

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General music chat / Re: Weller Q&A
« on: Today at 09:22:49 AM »
Quote from: detroitmike on September 19, 2018, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: greenstreet on September 19, 2018, 11:14:04 AM


But in fairness to the modfather, that's an unsolvable paradox that lies in the heart of the mod scene after the 60s. That's why, being honest with myself, I'd rather be called a "trad" than a "mod", as I unashamedly embrace the nostalgia elements and don't care too much for that ambiguous "forward thinking" that many mods invoke while dressing in a 1964 accurate italian top.
"Trad" is a good description, but I've determined I can't pull off that look, so I'm leaning more toward the "Fwd Thinking" look that the elders like Weller and Watts (and even M. Freeman) are sporting.
As far as his music being "90% guitar based", that's kind of like saying Coltrane's entire catalog was "90% Sax based" ;D.
It's not the instrument, it's how you use it, IMO  :D.


Well, Mike, you'll have to agree he's not cutting edge anymore, is he? And that's not a bad (or good) thing per se, as long as he makes good music (his last record is nothing to write home about, IMO, maybe the next one...). Social comment & pop music combo is nothing new either (Dylan anyone?) nor so-called "forward thinking".


Re. the clobber department, from my point of view Weller has known better -and worse- days, a hit-or-miss affair now. Martin Freeman dresses well, in fairly classic stuff, hardly an avant-gardist (or a mod avant-gardist for that matter). It's a slippery issue, that "forward thinking" mood when we're discussing a scene that had its peak 50+ years ago. If you take to heart that "fwd thinking" attitude you may well find yourself outside our given frame, which ain't bad either, nor good, just a different thing from what broadly speaking we understand as "mod". 

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General music chat / Re: Weller Q&A
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:40:39 PM »
Quote from: Simon Bond on September 19, 2018, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: greenstreet on September 19, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
I've never been a huge Weller fan, but I respect the man and his achievements, so I'm not biased here. It's funny that he regularly repeats that "always looking forward" mantra, given his music is 90% guitar-based and full of references to the past, intentional or not. Barely coherent, I'd say.

But in fairness to the modfather, that's an unsolvable paradox that lies in the heart of the mod scene after the 60s. That's why, being honest with myself, I'd rather be called a "trad" than a "mod", as I unashamedly embrace the nostalgia elements and don't care too much for that ambiguous "forward thinking" that many mods invoke while dressing in a 1964 accurate italian top.


And if the only artist alive with whom mr. Weller would like to collaborate is Pharrell Williams, well, then he's running short of ideas and/or ambition fast, I'm afraid, as Williams is just an agreeable, modest talent to whom the industry has hung the "genius" tag, a tag that obviously too large for him. And of course, he's squarely mainstream, no trace of "avant-garde" about him.

Another fine bit of musical journalism. .a fine polemic diatribe 😊

Thanks, mr. Bond. I think Weller is not as much a "sacred cow" here as he's in Britain, so mine may be a somewhat more objective point of view. That said, it's just that, an opinion.

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Mod fashion and style / Re: "Slouch suits" a new low.
« on: September 19, 2018, 06:33:34 PM »
So are Suitsupply the offenders? What a faux pas, I don't think it'll be a success for this kind of company, but who knows? Maybe there are lots of people eager to attend a business meeting in trackpants and t-shirt. What'll be next, slippers?

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Mod fashion and style / Re: "Slouch suits" a new low.
« on: September 19, 2018, 03:49:03 PM »
Quote from: Trotsky on September 19, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I'm in charge of the world anyone caught wearing a t-shirt and a jacket will find themselves on the first train to the salt mines.

In case you're worried about the prospect of me being in charge I'll be bringing in hot pants Tuesday as my second policy so it's not all bad.

 ;D

And that's the "formal" collection... I'd rather not know how the "casual" collection looks like.

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Mod fashion and style / Re: I'd Wear That...
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:26:25 AM »
Quote from: greenstreet on September 17, 2018, 12:35:01 PM
A textbook case on how to ruin a decent garment. This Benetton mac looks really fine (even the lenght), but they had to mess it up with that unnecessary, ugly chest zip pocket.




Even worse (and you should see the back, with a huge "New York Yankees" sign embroidered). Why Gucci is making extremely expensive -3.500 €- coats for a baseball team is anybody's guess, but there's got to be a niche market for this abortion. Maybe a NYY fan with lots of money and zero brains?





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General music chat / Re: Weller Q&A
« on: September 19, 2018, 11:14:04 AM »
I've never been a huge Weller fan, but I respect the man and his achievements, so I'm not biased here. It's funny that he regularly repeats that "always looking forward" mantra, given his music is 90% guitar-based and full of references to the past, intentional or not. Barely coherent, I'd say.

But in fairness to the modfather, that's an unsolvable paradox that lies in the heart of the mod scene after the 60s. That's why, being honest with myself, I'd rather be called a "trad" than a "mod", as I unashamedly embrace the nostalgia elements and don't care too much for that ambiguous "forward thinking" that many mods invoke while dressing in a 1964 accurate italian top.


And if the only artist alive with whom mr. Weller would like to collaborate is Pharrell Williams, well, then he's running short of ideas and/or ambition fast, I'm afraid, as Williams is just an agreeable, modest talent to whom the industry has hung the "genius" tag, a tag that obviously too large for him. And of course, he's squarely mainstream, no trace of "avant-garde" about him.



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Mod fashion and style / Re: MOSCOT shades...
« on: September 18, 2018, 07:04:45 PM »
Lovely, but be careful, they seem more adequate for big faces.

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