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Mod fashion and style / Re: Whats the last item you bought?
« on: January 27, 2022, 02:39:49 PM »
These shoes from Claudio's sale:

Also ordered a 3 piece MtM suit from Edward Sexton site modeled after a Tommy Nutter late 60's number , 2 month delivery estimate so unfortunately I won't be able to post a pics of it here...

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Excellent list so far, Ian...

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General music chat / Re: Charly R&B Label
« on: January 21, 2022, 05:46:30 PM »

The only one I can think of I own is their reissue of "Ogden"... no comp Lps

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:15:56 PM »
Quick DNA sale

https://www.dnagroove.it/sales/

Older stock, little in my size... but perhaps in your size?

Same here...

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 17, 2022, 12:25:49 PM »

I'm not saying it's always the case, though, it can work in reverse: some European investors (mainly Italian) for instance have been buying last years ailing prestigious clothing makers (or their names and brand image) and have relaunched them in small (McLauren or McRitchie, Scottish knitwear manufacturers), middle (Baracuta) or big (Tod's) scale, stressing quality and the fact their stuff is made in Italy and other European countries.

Which brings me back to my original point, G. You can buy a knock off Harrington jacket for $100 (more or less) at any number of mass market retailers (ZARA Uniqlo Ben Sherman), or a real Baracuta at $400.
 How many posts on this site of a real Baracuta  over the years have been followed by: "But the price!" ?

In this particular case, Mike, you'll have to admit that a poly/cotton (talking about the standard G9) light jacket for 400 € is overpriced, even if they're made in the UK. Ditto with the wool versions retailing at 600 €. That said, I'd rather own a Baracuta than one of those cheap knock-offs. In fact, currently I own (that I can think of) a Baracuta G9, a made in the EU fair trade madras one and a JS made in England golf jacket; just guilty of getting a Uniqlo G4-lookalike, mainly 'cos I liked the colour and the fit...  :-[

Item's like a Baracuta, a Tag LeMans watch, or a H. Huntsman & Son's suit is more that just "parts and labor", G.
And quality doesn't come cheap.  ;)

Indeed, Mike, you're paying for a heritage and a know-how, what we call here an "intangible good", but still, as Simon points out, too expensive for the quality and the fabrics involved. A bit like Burberry and some brands that currently seem to charge more for the branding than the actual merits of the product, an old sin of the luxury business.
I'm not buying the "quality" argument, though. Been down that road before on here where people talk about  poor "quality" simply because they don't like the brand.
I had a Ben Sherman Harrington that frayed after light use for 2 years, I'm dead sure a G9 wouldn't do that. I still own a Pretty Green car coat from their first couple of years in business, that I bought used from eBay years back, that still looks brand new at 10 years old. And I've read plenty of comments here flogging PG's quality back then.
No sir, totally disagree on that point.

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 17, 2022, 01:56:54 AM »

I'm not saying it's always the case, though, it can work in reverse: some European investors (mainly Italian) for instance have been buying last years ailing prestigious clothing makers (or their names and brand image) and have relaunched them in small (McLauren or McRitchie, Scottish knitwear manufacturers), middle (Baracuta) or big (Tod's) scale, stressing quality and the fact their stuff is made in Italy and other European countries.

Which brings me back to my original point, G. You can buy a knock off Harrington jacket for $100 (more or less) at any number of mass market retailers (ZARA Uniqlo Ben Sherman), or a real Baracuta at $400.
 How many posts on this site of a real Baracuta  over the years have been followed by: "But the price!" ?

In this particular case, Mike, you'll have to admit that a poly/cotton (talking about the standard G9) light jacket for 400 € is overpriced, even if they're made in the UK. Ditto with the wool versions retailing at 600 €. That said, I'd rather own a Baracuta than one of those cheap knock-offs. In fact, currently I own (that I can think of) a Baracuta G9, a made in the EU fair trade madras one and a JS made in England golf jacket; just guilty of getting a Uniqlo G4-lookalike, mainly 'cos I liked the colour and the fit...  :-[

Item's like a Baracuta, a Tag LeMans watch, or a H. Huntsman & Son's suit is more that just "parts and labor", G.
And quality doesn't come cheap.  ;)


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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 16, 2022, 01:28:44 PM »

I'm not saying it's always the case, though, it can work in reverse: some European investors (mainly Italian) for instance have been buying last years ailing prestigious clothing makers (or their names and brand image) and have relaunched them in small (McLauren or McRitchie, Scottish knitwear manufacturers), middle (Baracuta) or big (Tod's) scale, stressing quality and the fact their stuff is made in Italy and other European countries.

Which brings me back to my original point, G. You can buy a knock off Harrington jacket for $100 (more or less) at any number of mass market retailers (ZARA Uniqlo Ben Sherman), or a real Baracuta at $400.
 How many posts on this site of a real Baracuta  over the years have been followed by: "But the price!" ?

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 15, 2022, 01:33:50 PM »
Yeah another good example Mike. Also other once-stalwart brands like Clark’s and Doc Martens may still be independent (I have no idea) but even if they are almost all their gear’s construction is offshored to the Far East in a never ending race to the bottom to find ever more cheap labour.

Clark's were bought out by Chinese investors and will no doubt look to 'international tastes' in the future - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/28/clarks-looking-for-reboot-under-new-chinese-leadership
You can't stop "capitalism" Robin.
As much as people say they want made in (fill in the blank whatever country you reside in) most people wouldn't pay the prices they would charge, however much they claim...

Mike, if you keep an eye on frequent sales or one-off reductions you can get made in Europe gear at reasonable prices, guess the same applies to the States. Most folks won't give a damn about where their rags are made though  :-\

Already do it, G. (2 of the last items I bought were a Fair Isle jumper and "Princeton" scarf from John Simons. At least the scarf was on sale) I buy as much as I can from Europe, Italy, US, Canada, etc., I do it primarily for quality and the idea I'm not supporting 3rd world "sweat shops". People should be paid a living wage for their labor.
Plus, the clothes just look and fit better
Even if I'm paying "full price" in many instances.

What puts me off is some company that off shores, then still charges full price for maximum profit for "shareholders", lik ethese private equity outfits do when the buy up brands.
And you're right, most people don't care. They just want "cheap" clothing.

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 14, 2022, 08:42:17 PM »
Yeah another good example Mike. Also other once-stalwart brands like Clark’s and Doc Martens may still be independent (I have no idea) but even if they are almost all their gear’s construction is offshored to the Far East in a never ending race to the bottom to find ever more cheap labour.

Clark's were bought out by Chinese investors and will no doubt look to 'international tastes' in the future - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/28/clarks-looking-for-reboot-under-new-chinese-leadership
You can't stop "capitalism" Robin.
As much as people say they want made in (fill in the blank whatever country you reside in) most people wouldn't pay the prices they would charge, however much they claim...

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Mod fashion and style / Re: Clothes bargains, pass 'em on...
« on: January 14, 2022, 12:48:59 PM »
Yeah another good example Mike. Also other once-stalwart brands like Clark’s and Doc Martens may still be independent (I have no idea) but even if they are almost all their gear’s construction is offshored to the Far East in a never ending race to the bottom to find ever more cheap labour.

Doc's were bought out by a "private equity" firm, too. You can't get Doc's re soled now like you used to. And the last time I tried to buy Bass, they stopped making narrow widths. That's a dead giveaway they're mass producing for max profits.
Yeah, it's sad that true "quality" is hard to find these days, and only in the upper, upper price ranges...

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